ComicsVerse sits in with Daniel Percival (Executive Producer) And Alexa Davalos (Juliana Crain) from THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE!

Speaker 1: In your mind about, obviously without the spoilers, what is sort of the next stage in the evolution of the Americans on the cast? So, the dramatic thrust of where it’s going. Both of your perspectives, please?

Daniel Percival: Well we are right in the middle-

Alexa Davalos: We’re so deep in it right now!

Daniel Percival: — of Season 3 right now and we’ve been asked this [inaudible 00:00:19] and it’s only as a courtesy neither of us have real perspective on the season yet. That may sound a weird thing to say [crosstalk 00:00:26] but we are still in the process of working out exactly what this season’s core message is. But the message of the show doesn’t change, which is “What does it mean to be human?”, human worlds, and how our own complicity in evil allows it … And how do you change the consciousness of the monster to make it aware of its own monstrosity. That’s it.

Speaker 1: And you young lady? How do you view the new season, even with your limited perspective at this point?

Alexa Davalos: Oh my God. We’re sort of … the surface is somewhere up there … You know, one of the things I think … he came to me with his thoughts on reality and one of his quotes that I love is so brilliant, I think … kind of applies always to this show is how much of reality is in your head and how much is out there.

And I think that what we’re doing this season is really layering those two things, and we’re merging realities in a way that is tangible. I think in the beginning of the show, that was all a bit abstract. And I think this season, we’re starting to really get a different perspective on something that is decided.

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Speaker 2: So, at the end of this season, we find out that Julianna’s sister, a version of Julianna’s sister, is alive.

And that brings up the question, “Which version of Julianna’s sister died?” Because, we also found out that … Forgive me I forget his name, but there was the young Japanese man who was hurt in Hiroshima [crosstalk 00:02:19], yes, who had been living in that world for a period of time, which shows that there could be people from the alternate world who’ve been there. So, is that coming from the play on who now who is from their world versus the alternate world and does it-

Alexa Davalos: Yeah, absolutely. [inaudible 00:02:40] You know, the Trudy that passed away is her Trudy, that’s her sister. The Trudy that comes back, is a different Trudy. Which has been fascinating to explore and try to convey story-wise, because obviously being able to discuss it at great length, it makes perfect sense. But just to boil it down to something that is, again, tangible on screen is different.

But ultimately, there’s an open space in this reality so she was able to come back. And I think that the whole point of her being reintroduced to them the way that she was was Albertson’s gift to Julianna to basically say, “This is real. You can touch her and talk to her and she’s real.” It’s too abstract otherwise and I think that gave us a really beautiful end to this season and being able to explore a much deeper level of ourselves and all the worlds.

ComicsVerse (Kay): I love that you’re … as you both said that you’re knee deep in season three now and you’ve been playing this character, you’ve gotten to know this character. You’ve studied this character. What would you say, I guess this is a bit more of a personal question, but what about Julianna do you feel you enjoyed playing the most? Or is there something about her that you feel particularly [inaudible 00:04:09] about with her. Or if not, maybe you don’t but I’m sure you have some type of-

Alexa Davalos: Yeah, it’s interesting. We’ve been talking today … it’s the first time I’ve ever spent this much time with a character. I’ve done a season of something or a film and then it’s over. So, more than studying her, there’s an immersion that happens that’s a simultaneous thing. We’re living the story and I’m living with her and she’s developing and I’m developing. It’s a little worrying at times I think actually. [laughs]

The merging … She’s fascinating. She is ever-changing. She’s always growing, and again, based on her environment, things that happen and the things that she’s subject to obviously affect her as they would us. Being able to incorporate all of those experiences and make them part of her is a constant growth and change, which is life.

Speaker 2: And so, in season three I saw that we’re bringing in J. Edgar Hoover-

Daniel Percival: Yes.

Speaker 2: You know, one of the first real American sides of the story that we’re bringing in.

Daniel Percival: Well, there’s two actually. In the first episode, you get to meet the head of the American Gestapo, which would be J. Edgar Hoover. And the right’s marshal of America, which was a [inaudible 00:05:42], essentially for the person who, essentially the American president, based on American George Lincoln Rockwell.

We hinted at this in the first season where you saw George Lincoln Rockwell Airport where JF Kennedy airport is. And George Lincoln Rockwell, for those of you old enough to remember the world, was the head of the American Nazi Party. And would have been a poster boy for the American Nazi regime.

We’re sort of focusing much more on the world of [inaudible 00:06:11] in America. So how does this world operate? It’s not run from Berlin. And like any empire, the capital of the empire is Berlin, but America is an autonomous, the east coast America, is an autonomous Nazi power, with its leaders and its heads of this, its heads of that, its government officials, and you get to meet two of them.

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And you begin to see that … I think a lot of people in the first season seem to think America was an occupied nation. They think it was run by Germans. And it’s not. The whole point of John Smith, literally in a very Anglo-Saxon name, is that the people in power were Americans who have embraced the Nazi ideology.

Speaker 2: Quick follow up to that, J. Edgar Hoover was such a complex person and such a controversial person. How was that like developing him into this world?

Daniel Percival: Well, you know with a lot of the characters in our story we have this huge burden of responsibility to both be realistic and creative. And what I mean by that is, you know, we have Hitler, and we have Himmler, and we have Goebbels, so we have a lot of these [inaudible 00:07:18], and these monstrous human beings, but in those cases we can extrapolate if they had survived what might have happened.

With somebody like J. Edgar Hoover or George Lincoln Rockwell that never lived under a fascist regime, how would those characters have coped and dealt with- would they have assimilated? We have a very, very detailed alternative history in how America lost the war, what the sequence of events that led up to the first day of our show at the beginning. We have detailed character bibles. And, we know why John Smith made the choices he did. What the pressures were.

But any nation you look at that was defeated or occupied in Europe, for example, and during second World War, a lot of Europeans don’t like to admit it, but the country divided. It divided those who refused to collaborate and resist, and those the majority of which, kept their head down, survived and collaborated. And in

France they created their own Nazi government. And most European countries. They sent forces, not in France, but a lot of the other European forces sent forces to fight. Assimilation of Nazism was the key. And it worked to an extent. In the end when they didn’t [inaudible 00:08:34] because they were defeated before they could be victorious. In our world they’re victorious. So, what would Hoover have been doing? He was very good at his job.

Speaker 2: When you’re dealing with a show that’s rooted in a reality that you’ve created and suddenly in the promo clip we got, you’re dealing with this multi-verse in a much bigger way. Is it tough to walk that line of reality and suddenly get into the more sci-fi concepts?

Daniel Percival: [to Alexa] –we talked about this earlier–

Alexa Davalos: It doesn’t feel, oddly, it doesn’t feel like science fiction in the way that you think it would … Multiple dimensions and parallel universes and things that have been discussed and studied for a very long time. And really there’s a philosophy behind it more so than this sort of fantastical kind of completely intangible idea. It weirdly, I think because of the way that we’ve sown the seeds throughout the show from the beginning, it feels like it’s sort of time to start exploring that in a way. It doesn’t feel jarring or overly heavy-handed science fiction in my biased opinion. It’s a great aspect of it. But it doesn’t feel like it dominates.

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Daniel Percival: It’s really an alternate history show more than a sci-fi. And even the multiverse elements are allegorical for the many versions of us. The many choices we have. How would you behave in a different setting of sorts? It’s not really the point of the show. The point of the show is to question our choices and our humanity.

And it could be a religious belief or a philosophical belief, and because it’s Philip K. Dick and it’s based in a scientific belief, there are many versions of us doing many different things. And that version’s moral choices will depend on the circumstances they’re in. So, any journey or revelation of an alternate reality is only relevant where it reflects bad thoughts of reality of our mental likeness.

Speaker 3: Alright, thanks, guys. That’s all the time we have.
ComicsVerse (Kay): Thank you!

Daniel Percival: Thank you.

Alexa Davalos: Thank you very much, good to see you again.

Speaker 1: She remembers! [inaudible 00:10:50]

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